Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-29420052-20170220223600/@comment-29420052-20170224022718

24.18O.22.221 wrote: Maracash73 wrote: while, yes, nearly all of abyss' moves ignore frigosts E, C and V are still blocked. Abyss is going to have a hard time doing damage without those.

Frigost also has above-average damage on his click combo, and abyss does use mana up quite quickly. Abyss' click combo, tho great for camping, is very slow and frigost can try to charge in on abyss. Even when abyss combines it with X, frigost has Z, which deals 100-120 damage and covers all the way across abyss' X.

'ABYSS IS NOT BETTER AT CLOSE RANGE. 'I dont know where you got this idea from, as frigosts block still works against abyss' V and C, and frigost has a much faster (and more powerful) click combo. Check it out in training.

The speed debuffs from frigost are very dangerous, as abyss cant as easily bunny hop around in its X, and, if the frigost is smart, the frigost will just bunny hop outside the circle until it goes away, inwhich frigost can then use Z and chase down abyss.

Also, just because its a fighting game doesnt mean that the game doesnt have counters, look at proto vs commander. Commander has a high stun rate and good knock back, which is going to be hard for proto as he has very short range and is very vulnerable to stun.

Final Words: 1v1 me frigost v abyss scrub smart abyss would conserve mana

jump( left or right) then click combo = chance to dodge the charge

that is true abyss is, better kiting.

How ever if firgost dives you, you can bait out his block then stun then apply X for defense debuff and defense buff to abyss then use the ult of abyss

In conclusion: it's a SKILL matchup, all about them mind games, ill fite you u nub when mate how so would it conserve mana?

congrats, you dodged the charge! you only have to do that for another 10 seconds until you can use your X again!

abyss cant kite. It has an AMAZING camping game, as it is one of the 2 classes that can, and cryo sucks! (i love cryo tho)

how will you bait out his block? with V and C?

in conclusion: you face to many noob frigosts