Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-28140663-20160715181630

oh my goodness its been a million years geph ramsay

this is the to-go guide if you're going to stick Subrole Mage onto your class idea

1. All Subrole Mages are underappreciated.

Take examples like Frigost and Sievert, and now Obsidian's joined the underdog crew after his nerfs. Abyss and Tundrus also fit the category of underappreciated. So if you're making a Subrole Mage, no matter it's Main Role, it should always be underappreciated due to a weakness or just being bad overall.

2. Subrole Mages have a weakness.

Frigost struggles against kiters, Sievert has extremely low defense, Obsidian is extremely slow, Abyss has lackluster damage, and Tundrus is basicly only viable in Boss Fight. Subrole Mages should be extremely situational classes with a few extra tools but useless otherwise.

3. Subrole Mages have a ranged attack.

Hell even Sievert has a ranged attack (EV), note that if you're going to make a Subrole Mage, it needs to have a ranged skill thrown in there somewhere.

that's actually about it 